Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!mit-vax!eagle!mhuxi!houxm!mel From: mel@houxm.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Comments on Unix from the DEC-Professional Message-ID: <550@houxm.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 09:04:06 EDT Article-I.D.: houxm.550 Posted: Tue Sep 27 09:04:06 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Sep-83 01:10:42 EDT References: <221@decvax.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 23 I agree somewhat with what Martin Minow says, but please everybody - name and document your favorite system that is better in ALL these respects. Don't flame on about your goodie that beats UNIX in one or another, that's easy - tell us about a system that is really better than UNIX for doing those things people use computers to do. Is there a system out that has more, and more diverse user applications? Does any system out there not require a systems guru (IBM and DEC-10's seem to need whole groups of them - and who can get a DEC Rainbow to do ANYTHING useful without a guru around)? Is there any advantage to having the "mass produced" common system? We run a lot of UNIX systems that look similar, and true, no two are identical. But, mostly for reasons that have nothing to do with UNIX. UNIX allows them to look similar even though they run on dis-similar hardware and serve completely different user communities and purposes. Does UNIX break more frequently than other systems? Not that I have noticed. If so, shouldn't that be fixed? What other system has more novice users, and gets novice users doing useful work faster than UNIX? What system attracts and holds more users? Would you go back to TSO? CP/M? TOPS-20? CMS? VMS? what? why? Are any of the UNIX-alikes that aren't, better than the ones that are? Please answer all the questions, not just one or two. If UNIX is so awful, why is it so popular - and why do I like it so much? Mel Haas , houxm!mel