Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!kpno!ut-sally!riddle From: riddle@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Hairy legs and monkey suits Message-ID: <239@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Sep-83 13:36:28 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.239 Posted: Sun Sep 11 13:36:28 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Sep-83 19:56:27 EDT Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 41 (This is a reply I sent to thanh@rlgvax.UUCP over a recent item he posted to net.women.only with the subject line "leg/armpit hair must be shaved if shown at work". I am posting it to net.women because I don't want to violate net.women.only. In fact, I think that this topic really transcends both groups.) To: thanh@rlgvax.UUCP Subject: This isn't hate mail, but... References: <1136@rlgvax.UUCP> ...did it ever occur to you that there are people to whom an "office environment" is unpleasant precisely b e c a u s e it forces everyone into an identical mold? I am a man who finds suits and ties uncomfortable, impractical and repugnant, particularly in the warm climate enjoyed by much of the U.S. People's expectations that I dress in such a monkey suit to fit t h e i r idea of how one should dress in an office make me mad. Similarly, the idea that a woman who preferred not to shave her legs or armpits would be pressured into doing so by her co-workers or superiors strikes me as a despicable, if petty, infringement on her personal matters. I happen to detest the pancake makeup and perfume worn by most women in a typical office environment, just as you seem to detest hairy legs and armpits. Why should your standards of beauty be forced on women office- workers when mine aren't? I say, let those who want to sweat and be stifled in their suits or be plastered and scraped by their makeup and razors do so; but don't make it a requirement that the rest of us do the same just to conform to your sense of propriety. (By the way: if I have flamed a bit, please don't take it as hate mail. If you can express your opinion, so can I. No personal offense is intended.) -- Prentiss Riddle {ihnp4,ut-ngp}!ut-sally!riddle riddle@ut-sally.{UUCP,ARPA}