Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!ixn5c!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece From: preece@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Language and Oppression - (nf) Message-ID: <2907@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 00:33:22 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.2907 Posted: Tue Sep 27 00:33:22 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 22-Sep-83 06:50:36 EDT Lines: 24 #R:yale-com:-204200:uicsl:16400021:000:1137 uicsl!preece Sep 20 09:11:00 1983 The unwitting oppressor claims (and firmly believes) only the best of intentions when he refers to the "girls in the office." However, those "girls" most definitely find it degrading and insulting to be referred to as children. ---------- My mother-in-law always uses 'girls' for secretaries, including herself (she's 62, maybe she likes thinking of herself as girlish). I'm sure she doesn't mean in to be degrading. Her daughter, my wife, and I (that's just two people) always flinch when she uses the term. Language is a tricky bastard. I'm sure 'girls' was originally used in a familial sense; remember it used to be common for companies to view themselves as families. Now we call that paternalism. Intentions, assumptions, and protests all find their way into very simple word choices. I tend to favor a little more care in choosing words, a little more attention to the sensibilities of the reader than seems to be the preference of the language conservatives and a little more attention to the sound of the language than is favored by the 'language is part of the problem' crowd. scott preece pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece