Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site achilles.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!floyd!whuxlb!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!houxm!mhuxi!mhuxj!mhuxl!achilles!smb From: smb@achilles.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: 59 cents Message-ID: <617@achilles.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Sep-83 16:37:15 EDT Article-I.D.: achilles.617 Posted: Wed Sep 21 16:37:15 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Sep-83 03:26:26 EDT References: cca.5742, <5895@unc.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 22 Byron is right; the differences are quite real (although I believe the original submitter stated the conditions incorrectly; see below). For example, the Labor Department compared salaries for male and female scientists, controlling for differences in education, experience, etc. The result: on the average, women earned about 80% of what their male colleagues with *similar backgrounds* earned. I saw this written up in Science News about 4 years ago; I can probably dig up the exact citation if necessary. As for the exact figures: my recollection is that the $.59 number is an average for all women, as compared with all men, and hence does not take into account education and experience. It also does not take into account the sexual differentiation of the job market -- it can be hard to compare women and men in the same job categories, because most jobs are predominatly female or predominantly male. (A new goal of the feminist movement is "equal pay for equal value", which is an attempt to equalize wages among different job categories that are nevertheless equally valuable to the employer.) But -- as I mentioned above -- when all these factors are controlled for, women still earn far less than men. And on the average -- a female college graduate earns less than a male high school dropout.... --Steve Bellovin