Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!ubc-visi!ubc-medg!naomi From: naomi@ubc-medg (Naomi Altman) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Amniocentesis Message-ID: <128@ubc-medg.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Sep-83 20:15:51 EDT Article-I.D.: ubc-medg.128 Posted: Tue Sep 6 20:15:51 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Sep-83 10:11:10 EDT Lines: 45 Well, I'm not a geneticist or a doctor, but I work in the department of medical genetics. I just consulted with a professor in the department whose specialty is genetic counselling. She handed me a stack of papers on amniocentesis - complications of pregnancy, post-natal complications, and legal aspects for doctors involved in counselling. Estimates of the incidence of Downs' syndrome in women over 35 range from 2% to 4%. In 1978, 80 types of genetic problems could be identified with amniocentesis. The number has grown since then. All of the reports I read indicated no differences in birth complications or in post-natal development for babies that had been subject to amniocentesis, and babies of mothers of similar age who had not. The spontaneous abortion rate after amniocentesis was, in all studies, very similar to the rate in mothers of similar age who had not undergone amnio - however, all the reports estimated additional risk of 1% or less (i. e. they erred on the side of caution.) The most comprehensive study I have was done in Canada in 1977. (And things have improved since then.) In 1227 amnio cases, the spontaneous abortion rate was .2% (this is *extremely* low) and there were mild maternal complications (such as vaginal leakage) in 3.4% of the cases. There were 7 misdiagnoses in 1227 amnios - of these 2 were wrong sex, and one was a fetus that was already dead in the womb. 2 normal pregnancies were terminated due to these misclassifications. As well, two normal pregnancies (one of which was twins) miscarried due to compications. A 1979 study of 3000 amnios done in the U.S. had 14 misclassifications, of which 8 were wrong sex. These two studies also found that larger needle size was implicated with increased risk of complication. Larger needles are used in order to get a large enough sample of fluid to analyse. They found that taking 2 samples with a smaller needle was preferable. My informant expressed the view that with ultrasound, there was negligible chance of deforming the fetus with the needle. The literature cites two cases (out of thousands of amnios). One author felt that ultrasound was not useful in avoiding this problem. Evidence suggests that ultra-sound poses no risk to mother or fetus. A note in the New England Journal of Medicine, 1980 entitled "The Pro-life bonus of amniocentesis" reports on a survey of 297 mothers who had undergone amniocentesis. I quote: "Without the reassurance that amniocentesis would provide, 8.4% of these pregnancies would not have been undertaken, and another 4.0% would have been aborted. During the five-year period, positive diagnoses have led to therapeutic abortions in 7 cases (approximately 2%). There is, therefore, an apparent "bonus" of 10 pregnancies per 100 that might not have been completed is amniocentesis had been unavailable to this group of women. " Naomi Altman !decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!ubc-vision!ubc-medgen!naomi