Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxu.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!hou5h!hou5a!hou5d!hogpc!houxm!houxu!welsch From: welsch@houxu.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Some thoughts on Competition Message-ID: <198@houxu.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Sep-83 09:15:55 EDT Article-I.D.: houxu.198 Posted: Wed Sep 7 09:15:55 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Sep-83 15:07:46 EDT Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 44 I just finished reading an article where the author made the statement that "women should be encouraged to compete." I have very ambivalent thoughts about this statement. I would rather see the statements "women who are by nature competitive should be encouraged to compete" and "men who are by nature not competitive should be encouraged not to compete." I am speaking from the viewpoint of a man who is not competitive. There are two implicit assumptions being made by the statement "women should be encouraged to compete." The first is that competitiveness as a trait is better than non-competitiveness . Competition taken to extremes stinks and there are many situations where competition is not desirable. A classic example of where a blend of competitiveness and non-competitiveness is on teams that compete against other teams. There, the team as a whole must be competitive, but it is undesirable for individual members of the team to compete against other. On athletic teams one often hears of the leadership qualities that a player brings to a team that do not show up in the statistics or the no-name team that makes it to the playoffs. The second implicit assumption is that "if only women would change to be like men then women would succeed in this male dominated world." Yes that is probably true. I question, though, if this is desirable, particularly in with respect to a "competitiveness" trait. Perhaps, men should be trained to reward team building, helpfulness, ability to inspire, general excellence, and ability to support instead of only competitiveness. Maybe men should change to value traits commonly associated with women, whether a man or a woman has the trait. Some caveats - I am not saying that men are be nature more or less competitive than women, or that men have certain traits in greater abundance than women. That is a separate argument. I am saying that many traits associated with women are not as highly valued by "Western Culture" as many traits associated with men. I am also saying that this evaluation is in many cases wrong and that societies values should change. Competitiveness is one example. Larry Welsch houxu!welsch