Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxt!mhuxi!cbosgd!ihnp4!ixn5c!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece From: preece@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: RE: language & gender - (nf) Message-ID: <2731@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Sep-83 22:45:09 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.2731 Posted: Tue Sep 6 22:45:09 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Sep-83 05:45:34 EDT Lines: 33 #R:lzmi:-11100:uicsl:16400014:000:1602 uicsl!preece Sep 6 10:47:00 1983 I like the word firefighter instead of fireman, it's a nice, descriptive word. I'm less comfortable with chairperson, especially since it often is used only for females. I usually just make it chair, when it's my choice. When I hear the phrase 'the guys at the office' I don't make any gender assumption -- i've heard 'the guys' or 'you guys' (as opposed to 'a guy,' which would connote maleness) used gender-free as long as i can remember. Around here we usually say 'FTE month.' I don't know whether that's a response to AA requirements, but I'd bet it is (it stands for 'full time equivalent'). It's a struggle to write gender-free prose. Those generic pronouns do crop up from time to time. If I really can't get around it gracefully, I usually use 'he or she' (or vice versa), though I like the idea of alternating. Usually I just rewrite so it isn't necessary at all. And I'm not afraid to use 'one,' even if it does sound pompous. But I would like to urge everyone to just try to find appealing words as alternatives, instead of making pedestrian substitutions of person for man or euphemistic alternatices like sanitation engineer. Let's aim for vigorous, attractive language, the kinds of words that make people say 'why didn't we always call firemen firefighters?' I would point out that it is possible to differ on the issue of words that contain 'man' without being unenlightened or unsupportive. Sesame Street, while always very careful to portray all kinds of people in all kinds of roles, still says 'fireman.' scott preece uiuc - coordinated science lab pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece