Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbvax!root From: root@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: UUCP Message-ID: <88@ucbvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Oct-83 02:18:02 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.88 Posted: Sat Oct 15 02:18:02 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Oct-83 06:45:36 EDT Sender: root@ucbvax.UUCP Organization: U. C. Berkeley Computer Science Lines: 29 From GEOFF5@SRI-CSL Sat Oct 8 23:17:52 1983 The tone of your message almost doesn't deserve an answer, since calling the UUCP network "useless" shows that you indeed know not of what you speak. If you have questions to ask, you might try a neutral tone! In any case... There are indeed ARPA gateways in Europe -- namely in England and Norway, and interconnections to other European nets as well. If your "someone" has an authorized reason for using ARPANET, they (or you) can contact a local liaison and probably arrange access without too much trouble. The UUCP network does indeed have many nodes scattered throughout various countries in Europe, and also includes Australia. Particular concentrations occur in England, but there must be several dozen European sites by now, overall. If you care to specify where your friend is, I might be able to suggest a local site that he can contact -- though I can't suggest how they'll react to "outsiders" walking up and asking for access. Still, who knows? As for UUCP, there are essentially two versions in existence. The main version is part of Unix and requires a Unix license to run. The other version was written by yours truly, and I'm currently porting it to various non-Unix systems. Native VMS, Coherent, and IBM-PC MSDOS are in progress, others have been suggested and I'll probably start them fairly soon if there appears to be enough demand. --Lauren--