Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!cca!milla From: milla@cca.UUCP (Michael J. Massimilla) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: the Halting problem. Message-ID: <5837@cca.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Oct-83 16:54:56 EDT Article-I.D.: cca.5837 Posted: Thu Oct 6 16:54:56 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Oct-83 05:39:54 EDT References: eisx.607 Lines: 24 Your "infinite regress" dilemma is resolved when we view the situation practically instead of theoretically. Practically, a machine that is complex ENOUGH will appear to be conscious. It does not have to be able to manage infinite levels of thought. In fact, the whole question is a matter of degree. Humans are "more conscious" than the lower primates because humans have a greater capacity for complex thought. But even humans are limited. Certainly it is not beyond the realm of possibility for a machine to be sufficiently complex that it is "more conscious" than man. The key point is that consciousness is NOT the ability to manage infinite levels of model/reality. Rather, it is an ILLUSION associated with being able to perform highly complex thought. That illusion is enhanced by randomness, lack of full information, and the complexities of the external universe. Self-awareness is another aspect of the illusion. As for the theoretical characteristic "X" which you describe -- the absoulte ability to understand infinite levels of thought -- it has no practical existence or significance whatsoever. Michael Massimilla cca!milla