Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!PEREIRA@SRI-AI.ARPA From: PEREIRA@SRI-AI.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Halting problem discussion Message-ID: <12399@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Oct-83 21:57:04 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.12399 Posted: Thu Oct 6 21:57:04 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Oct-83 01:18:14 EDT Lines: 21 This discussion assumes that "human minds" are at least equivalent to Universal Turing Machines. If they are restricted to computing smaller classes of recursive functions, the question dissolves. Sequential computers are idealized as having infinite memory because that makes it easier to study mathematically asymptotic behavior. Of course, we all know that a more accurate idealization of sequential computers is the finite automaton (for which there is no halting problem, of course!). The discussion on this issue seemed to presuppose that "minds" are the same kind of object as existing (finite!) computing devices. Accepting this presupposition for a moment (I am agnostic on the matter), the above argument applies and the discussion is shown to be vacuous. Thus fall undecidability arguments in psychology and linguistics... Fernando Pereira PS. Any silliness about unlimited amounts of external memory will be profitably avoided.