Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!JAY@USC-ECLC From: JAY%USC-ECLC@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Parallelism & Consciousness Message-ID: <13169@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Sun, 30-Oct-83 17:56:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13169 Posted: Sun Oct 30 17:56:00 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 4-Nov-83 05:39:19 EST Lines: 44 From: Jay From: RICKL%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA ... the question we are really discussing seems to be: ``can an entity be said to be intelligent in and of itself, or can an entity only be said to be intelligent relative to some world?''. I don't think I believe in "pure, abstract intelligence, divorced from the world". ... another question we have been chasing around is: ``can intelligence be regarded as survivability, (or more generally as coping with an external environment)?''. [...] I believe intelligence to be the ability to cope with CHANGES in the enviroment. Take desert tortoises, although they are quite young compared to amobea, they have been living in the desert some thousands, if not millions of years. Does this mean they are intelligent? NO! put a freeway through their desert and the tortoises are soon dying. Increase the rainfall and they may become unable to compete with the rabbits (which will take full advantage of the increase in vegitation and produce an increase in rabbit-ation). The ability to cope with a CHANGE in the enviroment marks intellignece. All a tortoise need do is not cross a freeway, or kill baby rabbits, and then they could begin to claim intellignce. A similar argument could be made against intelligent amobea. A posible problem with this view is that biospheres can be counted intelligent, in the desert an increase in rainfall is handled by an increase in vegetation, and then in herbivores (rabbits) and then an increase in carnivores (coyotes). The end result is not the end of a biosphere, but the change of a biosphere. The biosphere has successfully coped with a change in its environment. Even more ludicrous, an argument could be made for an intelligent planet, or solar system, or even galaxy. Notice, an organism that does not change when its environment changes, perhaps because it does not need to, has not shown intelligence. This is, of course, not to say that that particular organism is un-intelligent. Were the world to become unable to produce rainbows, people would change little, if at all. My behavioralism is showing, j'