Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site rocksvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!dave From: dave@rocksvax.UUCP (Dave Sewhuk) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Speaker wire: reader reactions - (nf) Message-ID: <947@rocksvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Oct-83 12:04:52 EDT Article-I.D.: rocksvax.947 Posted: Thu Oct 13 12:04:52 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Oct-83 23:12:28 EDT References: <1970@hp-pcd.UUCP>, <937@watcgl.UUCP> <689@drufl.UUCP> Organization: Xerox, Rochester, N.Y. Lines: 42 I have to wonder about all this hoopla about speaker wire. How this test was made? Was it conducted in a "double-blind" environment where none of the participants knew what combinations of wires were used? Peoples expectations could color the outcome of the test! Some of the combinations of wires seemed to me to be electrically equivalent. The only differences would have been the zip cord to the "big" wire. The trusty Electronics Engineers' Handbook says that #3-#5 are essentially the same wire. I am ignoring the Litz effect due to that fact that the skin effect in the wires at those frequencies is negligable, hence it was a waste to do in the first place. Tin is a much worse conductor than copper so its contribution to increasing the copper cross area is also negligible, unless of course it really is thick on the wire. Copper cross area: #9: .01028" #10: .008155" #12: .00513" #25*19: .004788" #30*65: .0051025" therefore wire 3 = .008155" wire 4= .00992" wire 5= .01023" For the range of observed differences, I find it hard to believe that your test results are valid, sorry. Those wires are essentially 9-10 gauge wires. Also how long was each wire, I don't recall you mentioning that parameter. If you are going to give us results of subjective materials, let us know the method the scoring was done. If the vote was done by consensus then the results are probably the same as the most outspoken person or the one who answered first. Unless the results were voted on in secret and the participants did not know what wire was used at each phase of the test you might as well have not reported the results. Can feel the heat rising now, Dave ----- Arpa: Sewhuk.HENR@PARC-MAXC.ARPA uucp: {allegra, rochester, amd70, sunybcs}!rocksvax!dave