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From: bees@drux3.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.audio
Subject: Re: Speaker wire: reader reactions - (nf)
Message-ID: <837@drux3.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 16-Oct-83 10:26:20 EDT
Article-I.D.: drux3.837
Posted: Sun Oct 16 10:26:20 1983
Date-Received: Mon, 17-Oct-83 23:12:44 EDT
References: <1970@hp-pcd.UUCP>, <937@watcgl.UUCP> <689@drufl.UUCP> <947@rocksvax.UUCP>, <834@drux3.UUCP> <657@ulysses.UUCP>
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 > From: smb@ulysses.UUCP (Steven Bellovin)
 > Newsgroups: net.audio
 > Subject: Re: Speaker wire: reader reactions - (nf)
 > Message-ID: <657@ulysses.UUCP>
 > References: <1970@hp-pcd.UUCP>, <937@watcgl.UUCP> <689@drufl.UUCP> <947@rocksvax.UUCP>, <834@drux3.UUCP>
 > 
 > Ah, nothing like consistent, high-level, discussion.  You've made your
 > point; please try to understand the opposing point.  Some people claim
 > that certain kinds of wire have a certain effect on sound.  Others claim
 > that not only does it not have that effect, but that it cannot.  So what
 > happens?  You post a note describing a test that gave a certain result.
 > Others -- including myself -- were skeptical, and inquired about sources
 > of bias (my inquiry was a polite inquiry via mail).  Do we get back any
 > substantive replies?  No, of course not -- we're blamed for "flaming"
 > and "farting".  A simple "I don't know about the test conditions, but I
 > trust these people" would be far more informative, far more polite, and
 > far more conducive to rational discussion.

If you had checked the references line in my article, you would have found
that my followup was in reference to <947@rocksvax.UUCP>.  That article
was another non-polite followup to someone's well intended article.  If 
you would read my followup, you would also see that I am not the person who
posted the audio test.  I would not have received any of your mail.  
Personally, I could care less about the test and the wire, my followup was
brought about by yet another pseudo-expert berating what someone else
said.  I expect people to disagree, but not tell another person to keep
his tests (or whatever) off the net because it wasn't a double-blind,
third degree, whiz bang, test.  Next time READ an article and check
the REFERENCES before you followup.

Ray Davis   AT&T Information Systems Labs @ Denver   (303)538-3991
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