Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version Vortex 1.1 8/4/83; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: L.A.: Density and Weather Message-ID: <160@vortex.UUCP> Date: Thu, 6-Oct-83 23:18:28 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.160 Posted: Thu Oct 6 23:18:28 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Oct-83 03:51:47 EDT Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 53 It should be noted that L.A. is not at all laid out as a conventional "Eastern" city, in that it is extremely distributed. While there are certain corridors that become quite dense during morning/evening rush hours (e.g. the San Diego Freeway Southbound from The Valley in the morning and Northbound in the evening) I haven't (in my lifetime of living in different parts of L.A.) ever seen the sort of generalized crowding of "Expressways" *and* surface streets that I've noted on trips East. Part of the reason seems pretty obvious -- in many Eastern urban areas, almost EVERYBODY seems to have to go downtown every day. I've flown in a helicopter over Boston at 8 AM and the flow patterns (as static as they were) are indeed quite impressive. Out here, a much smaller percentage of the population lives or works in DOWNTOWN L.A. However, most people who work in L.A. *do* actually live in it, since the city itself is so massive (for example, almost the entire San Fernando Valley is actually in the city, even though there are popular place names [Encino, Van Nuys, Woodland Hills, etc.] that are commonly used.) However, large numbers of people virtually never go downtown, instead working in suburban areas or one of the "mini downtowns" that have developed over the years (like "Century City" in West L.A.). I myself end up downtown maybe four or five times a year, and it's like an alien city to me. Who needs it? -- I live near the beach. Oh yeah, one other point, if you Easterners got rid of those barbaric toll booths on your roads and bridges, I think you'd find that your rush hour traffic might flow a bit more smoothly. Just an idea... --Lauren-- P.S. By the way, regarding weather... If I want snow, I drive a relatively few miles out to the mountains. If I want desert, a few miles in a different direction will do the trick. If I want to see leaves change color... well, I can always visit New Hampshire or just drive up north a ways! Frankly, I much prefer a very mild climate that stays pretty much green all year long. Actually, we do have two seasons here -- wet (raining) and dry -- and indeed the weather has been rather erratic the last couple of years when viewed from a climatic perspective. However, I still love it here. I heard it well summed up a few years ago when I was flying back to L.A. from Columbus in December. It had been snowing hard for almost a week, and it was about 5 degrees outside. As the plane began to taxi out to the runway, the pilot came on and said, "Welcome ladies and gentlemen to United Flight 101 direct from Columbus, Ohio to Paradise." He was right. When I stepped out of the terminal at LAX, it was 8pm and 69 degrees. Was everything at the other end of that trip just a dream? Back to normality... --LW--