Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 10/6/83; site ihuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!ihuxm!cwa From: cwa@ihuxm.UUCP (Carl W. Amport) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Capital punishment Message-ID: <626@ihuxm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 7-Oct-83 11:58:12 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxm.626 Posted: Fri Oct 7 11:58:12 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Oct-83 10:04:34 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 31 From your article, these were most obvious assumptions that you made: 1 - People in society 'A' value life less than people in society 'B'. 2 - Society 'A' where capital punishment is introduced will become MORE violent than society 'B' where it was not introduced. 3 - Each member of society 'A' is more likely to commit murder than members of society 'B'. I guess you could call your assumptions, your theories, but I feel we can get them down to a factual level. Lets call society 'A', Illinois, and society 'B', Wisconsin. You said that is unlikely, although possible, to have a violent society that does not have capital punishment. It is not only likely, but a fact. Wisconsin is without capital punishment, but yet it too, has violent crime. Questions: 1 - Do people in Madison, Wisconsin value life less than people in Springfield, Illinois? 2 - Are people in Springfield more violent than people in Madison? 3 - Am I now more likely to commit murder since I have moved to Illinois from Wisconsin since there is capital punishment here and not there. Don't want to clutter an emotional argument up with factual examples but capital punishment was not reinstated in all 50 states so I guess we have examples of the situations you described, though it doesn't seem to work the way you assumed. ihuxm!cwa Carl Amport Naperville, IL.