Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site kobold.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!kobold!tjt From: tjt@kobold.UUCP (T.J.Teixeira) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Driving in Boston Message-ID: <180@kobold.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Oct-83 08:30:09 EDT Article-I.D.: kobold.180 Posted: Thu Oct 20 08:30:09 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Oct-83 09:25:04 EDT References: <1643@gatech.UUCP> Organization: Masscomp, Littleton, MA Lines: 56 Remember the saying: If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns! The corollary for Boston drivers is: If Boston drivers are lunatics, only lunatics will drive cars in Boston! As a result, as you get closer to the city of Boston, the worse the drivers are. The traffic jam you saw on I-93 was *not* incredible by local standards -- probably just normal rush hour. It is true that I-93 just north of the city is probably the second worst main road. Be thankful that you weren't trying to drive along the Southeast Expressway! In answer to specific questions: Just how many boxtops does it take to get a license in MA anyhow? It's been awhile since I got mine, but they used to require a written test (you had to correctly answer something like 18 out of 20 questions on traffic regulations) and a driving test as well as a quicky eye-test. About two years ago, there was a proposal to drop the written test (can anyone confirm this?), and the driving test was often "just drive around the block". Massachusetts drivers generally do learn to drive in the school of hard knocks (just look at the fenders!). And does anyone ever get stopped for violating traffic laws? As you suspect, almost never! However, at least once I was treated to the absolute luxury of being cut off by a cab driver making an illegal left turn only to be stopped (the cab driver that is) by an MDC cop immediately afterwards. What are MA insurance rates like? Well, depending on where you live, it ranges from not too bad to outrageous. The insurance companies also go by the prime rule: the closer you are to Boston, the more you'll pay! I live about 30 miles west of Boston (the near edge of the boonies) and pay ~$500/year to insure a '78 pickup truck. About $300 of that goes for much higher liability limits and collision coverage. I suspect (but no longer know) that if you live in Boston or any of the immediately surrounding cities (Cambridge, Somerville, Brookline, ...) you may have to pay two or three times that amount. P.S. Boston doesn't really have a monopoly on the awful drivers (or at least the awful traffic intersections). Near where I live there are quite a few cars sporting the bumper sticker: This car survived Chelmsford Center -- Tom Teixeira, Massachusetts Computer Corporation. Littleton MA ...!{harpo,decvax,ucbcad,tektronix}!masscomp!tjt (617) 486-9581