Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!yale-com!leichter From: leichter@yale-com.UUCP (Jerry Leichter) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Modem Users Beware: BELL $$$ Message-ID: <2164@yale-com.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Oct-83 10:04:47 EDT Article-I.D.: yale-com.2164 Posted: Fri Oct 14 10:04:47 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Oct-83 05:14:40 EDT References: cornell.5480 Lines: 45 I don't like the idea of Bell charging a lot for home modems, but I dislike uninformed flames like this one even more. Hal Perkins is uninformed both about technology and economics: Technology: It is quite true that the local loop between your home and your local office is used by you only; however, there is obviously other equipment involved in making your call. Something has to connect your local loop to the other end of your conversation. What that "something" is depends on the type of equipment in your central office, but there are always limits on central office interconnects that are a lot smaller than "every circuit active". The limits are there to keep the price of the equipment reasonable. It may be that the costs will change, and that new technologies may even make it possible to just allow every line to be active, but that's not the case today and is not likely to be soon. (As a simple example of resources you use whether you talk or not: Where do you think the power to drive your phone comes from?) Economic: "The ought to be forced to put in a technology that will allow charging by bits sent, etc." What an amazing statement! You, a member of a small minority of people who use the system in an idiosyncratic way, want to impose the enormous cost of replacing billions of dollars of capitol equipment, which is otherwise good for another 20 years or more, on everyone else. I remember bitches from years gone by about "Long distance would be much cheaper if Bell would use sattelites but they refuse because they have all this money invested in microwaves". Yes - so what? The costs of setting up a national network are IMMENSE, and can only be justified by assuming the equipment will last for quite a while. That means you can't throw everything you have out for the latest do-hicky. These new features are becoming availa- ble now because competitors like MCI and Tymnet are moving in with no existing capitol investment and applying new technologies to exactly the customers who have a use for it. (I know this sounds like AT&T's "cream-skimming" argument against competitors; it is. As a general rule, I dislike monopolies and regulation, but I must say that in the case of AT&T the likely course for telephone service in the near future is toward poorer, more expensive service, on average, as a result of the breakup.) If you want to pay for connections on the basis of bits sent, get a Tymnet or Telenet account. Of course, you still have to get to them by phone...sorry, you lose, until someone puts up the money to pay for the new equipment to provide you with another option. TANSTAFL - someone has to pay for that stuff - why do you think it should be anyone but you? BTW, I have never worked for AT&T or any of its constituent parts. -- Jerry decvax!yale-comix!leichter leichter@yale