Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!tekcad!ricks From: ricks@tekcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Re: qubix!steven in Re: Re: Human Li - (nf) Message-ID: <74@tekcad.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Oct-83 04:25:49 EDT Article-I.D.: tekcad.74 Posted: Mon Oct 17 04:25:49 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Oct-83 02:44:37 EDT Sender: ricks@tekcad.UUCP Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 27 #R:ihuxs:-40200:tekcad:8200004:000:1209 tekcad!paulp Oct 16 21:10:00 1983 In the sort of places I've lived in these last few years (apartments, townhouses, and a duplex), anything heavier than a .22 for home defense could easily be lethal to the folks next door. A 180 grain soft point from a 30-06 rifle has a muzzle velocity of about 4000 feet/sec. If it misses the major bones there's more than enough energy left to puncture several thicknesses of drywall and kill someone else, too. Handgun loads, e.g. 9mm, .45, are designed to deposit their energy within the body (by mushrooming) but a miss will still go thru a wall. For urban home defense you can't beat a sawed off 12 guage shotgun fitted with a pistol grip instead of a stock. Experimentation with the various commercial loads should result in a very lethal, yet limited, weapon. Obviously, this isn't suited for hostage situations or someone holding your Ming vase. In the long run there's no substitute for learning how to shoot accurately. Paul Pomes uucp: {decvax,harpo,ihnss,pur-ee,ucbvax,unc,zehntel}!teklabs!tekcad!paulp ARPA: tekcad!paulp.tek@Rand-Relay CSnet: tekcad!paulp@tek US Mail: Paul Pomes, Tektronix, Inc. Box 500 MS 59-323, Beaverton OR 97077 Phone: 503-627-2341