Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 10/6/83; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!hou5h!hou5a!hou5d!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck From: stanwyck@ihuxr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: "Hack" is a sacred word? Message-ID: <731@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Oct-83 10:39:08 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxr.731 Posted: Thu Oct 27 10:39:08 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 31-Oct-83 03:43:02 EST References: <848@mit-eddie.UUCP> <131@dual.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 23 Ok. So why the big hassle over "hacker"? If the rest of the world wants to use some other meaning, and it seems it does, then we can pick another word to express our meaning. Here we tend to refer to the very knowledgeable as "gurus" (singular "guru"). This is a word that could be extended to the diligent and foolish ones who work 36 hours straight, introducing more bugs than they fix, who presently consider themselves hackers. Actually, my experiance has been that those who really know their machines have no need or desire to spend 24+ hours at the keyboard. It is only those who are more interested in messing all the other users up that spend so many consecutive hours at the terminal. 99.9% or more of those who spend such lengthy periods of time at the terminal end up putting more bugs inthe system than anything else. So let's call the intelligent experts "gurus", and call the system breakers (whether break-in and ruin, or ruin by bug introduction) "hackers". Don Stanwyck ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck p.s. I don't consider myself either, but I am working on "guru". I have no desire to be "hacker".