Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!gummo!whuxle!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!hogpd!jrrt From: jrrt@hogpd.UUCP (R.MITCHELL) Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: KILLING Orcus Message-ID: <177@hogpd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Oct-83 16:59:09 EDT Article-I.D.: hogpd.177 Posted: Tue Oct 11 16:59:09 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Oct-83 02:32:23 EDT Lines: 29 To rabbit!jj: I respectfully suggest you are wrong when you say that killing is wrong for good characters. Good-aligned characters, especially paladins and lawful-good clerics, are honor-bound to destroy evil wherever it exists. Only in the most tenuous definition of self-defense could the following be considered as an act of self-preservation: A red dragon is terrorizing a village, devouring children, slaying the townsfolk, and in general being a horrible nuisance. Sir Pureatheart rides into town, hears of the situation, and promptly rides off to fight for justice. By my understanding of your comments, this noble knight is risking his alignment because he intends to slay the beast. Sure, it would be nice if Sir Pureatheart could convert the dragon to Lawful Goodness (through magic or eloquence), but that doesn't seem likely, and even if Our Hero was successful, any dragon that susceptible to an alignment change would be susceptible to one more. In this situation, I say, "Slay the critter." Equivalently for the Orcus puzzle: if you can make him Lawful Good, someone else can undo your work. Bringing a Demon Prince back into existence after it was destroyed on its own plane, is a bit harder. Two final notes: Good is *my* preferred alignment, so the light tone in my example is not meant to be sarcasm. Whether or not you view this kind of killing as wrong, should be consistent with your opinions on capital punishment. That's really what we're discussing, true? (Please, though, let's not argue *that* issue in this newsgroup). Rob Mitchell hogpd!jrrt