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From: arnold@umcp-cs.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.games.frp
Subject: Re: Too Powerful Characters
Message-ID: <3292@umcp-cs.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 23-Oct-83 13:09:58 EDT
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Posted: Sun Oct 23 13:09:58 1983
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Summary of character  that is problem for David Grindal

	Age about 50 years old. (20 years old plus about 30 years game time).

	STR:	19(45)  fighter 8th level
	WIS:	17      assassin 7th level
	INT:	18 	illusionist 14th level
	DEX:	22	
	CON:	17      ambitions wants to be a magic-user, thief, and
	CHR	16	   monk also.
	Hit Points 100+
	 powerful psionic

	wears gauntlets of dexterity, and has met magic pools a few times in
	her life. She also owns: ring of regeneration, ring of wraith-form, 
	several very nasty swords, several wands(potent ones too), and other
	stuff not listed.

	Bracers (AC 2) + cloak(+4) + ring(+3) + defender sword(+5)
	+ scarab agaist chaotics(+1) + scarab against good (+1)
	for an armour class of:  -5  just standing there
				 -9  with her dex
				 -14 with all 5 from the sword on defense
				 -15 against chaotics or goods
				 -16 against chaotic goods

	Because of her dex, the DMG allows her to use two weapons 
	simultaneously.  So she has two attacks one round, 4 the next, all
	as an 8th level fighter!  Don't forget the backstabbing abilities as
	well.

Some thoughts about the character above
1) This character is getting on in age (50 years is not young)
   she has at most 30 more years of playing.

2) The classes and stats that she is makes her equal to a 17th of 18th
   level character.

3) Her armor class and attacking ability are all most unreal.

4) A character like this is well on their way to hero status if not
   possible demi-god status.  (check she stats with some of the
   demi-gods stats in the D&D Gods book)

5) She has probilbly made lots of emenies, like the fighters  and
   assasssins guilds for quiting them to join the illusionts guild.

Solutions to the problem

1) Most other characters may not want to associate with her because she
   will get all the glory on an expidition no matter who does the work.
   Heros always seem to get that type of response weither they work or
   not.

2) Until the other characters reach a comprable level of ability, she 
   should be sent on mission fitting a hero of the relm, Like Hercules,
   or Lance-a-lot.

3) Design some seneros in which she and other characters are on 
   mission, but the bad guys are out to get her and will leave the 
   rest of the party alone. 

Overall Solutions to the problem of letting in outside world charcters
into your games.

1) Make sure that they will not upset the balance of game.

2) If they will upset the balance of the game then weaken what they
   can bring into the game. Limit the magic items, there effective 
   level, or other restritions. (No one  can have an AC better than -10)

3) If you want them in the game just strenght the opposition.

Good luck with this Hero (Demi-god) in the future.


			--- arnold@umcp-cs


   
   
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