Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 10/6/83; site ihldt.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!mhuxm!pyuxi!pyuxnn!pyuxmm!cbdkc1!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihldt!tmh From: tmh@ihldt.UUCP Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: re: Traveller Flaws Message-ID: <2061@ihldt.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Oct-83 11:14:11 EDT Article-I.D.: ihldt.2061 Posted: Tue Oct 25 11:14:11 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Oct-83 08:21:10 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 82 While the Traveller universe does have some major flaws i.e. it is two dimensional and computers don't work right. It is nevertheless a very nice game, especially if you use Mercenary, High Guard, Scouts and Assassin, Merchants and Merchandise, and the other supplements to generate characters. I find it infinitely preferable to a very flawed and completely illogical system like AD&D, Traveller at least tries to mimic real life. It is also an extremely flexible system, and with a little thought can be adopted to cover just about any Sci Fi scenario. The two dimensions in the universe I find are justified as they change the game from obscene to playable (one subsector is a huge place) and there is nothing in the rules that would prevent you from stacking subsectors if you want three dimensions. I have no idea how the hell you would be able to deal with it, but it could be done. The game has to be understandable to ten years olds as well as hackers. Computers suck in the game, but thats life. (P.S. they aren't that bad if you don't know much about computers). They needed some arbitrarily simple way of limiting the effect of computers on combat. As for other objects in the sky and genetic engineering those can both be easily simulated by the ref (when you write a set of rules covering something so vast and variable as the universe you have to draw the line somewhere). However, as the rules to any frp are guidelines, any ref can modify and shape them to his/her own perceptions and as I mentioned earlier Traveller is great for this. I have played Traveller since before it was published and I know the people at GDW who wrote it. I still don't agree with much of what Marc (the main author) has set up. For one thing I think a credit equals about a quarter, not a dollar as they state. My own subsectors are not in the traveller universe and I have other things besides solar systems on my maps. I have found that any role playing game played strictly by the rules with little or no original thought by the ref (or the players) is pretty dull (most D&D type games bore me to death, because there are so few DMs who can make the situations come alive). Traveller works best if both the players and the refs work on their characters. I personally have set up, in both of my subsectors, both the sector politics and the planetary politics and worked out the relations between each. I also have created around 10 to 15 native races to inhabit these planets each with its own characteristics. The other great thing about Traveller is the ability to play it through the mail. Traveller lends itself to both solitary character and group play. In a solitary character mode playing through the mail is a breeze. It can be alot of fun especially when player characters meet and don't know each other. I was playing in a game called Narapoia(the feeling that you're out to get the universe). My best friend Greg decided to play a female character (just to be different and because Don (the ref) always rewarded people for doing unusual characters (I was a Fremen)). At one point Greg's character(Wyoming Knott), who was very pretty (unlike Greg), ran into another player character. The person running the other player character fell in love with Greg's character. After chasing Wy awhile, the other player decided that he wanted Don to arrange for him to meet with the person, which he assumed was a girl, who was running Wy. Don laughingly says he had obviously lewd intentions. Greg in the meantime was told that there was this guy who was always hanging around and bothering his character. Greg was also given a rather unsavory description of this person and had no desire to even talk with him. This subsector was also full of planets from several science fiction books including Gor(nobody ever went there, I wonder Wy?) and Dorsai(I was there and it was just like the book). This game was run from Fort Wayne, In. and I didn't even meet the game master until after I had been playing for over a year. I was told that players were located all the way from Colorado Springs to the Appalachians. The reports of this game that got back to GDW were good enough that they dedicated the game of Snap Shot to the Don. To sum up. I happen to enjoy Traveller. With the right GM or players it is a fantastic game limited only by the imagination of those involved. There are many grey areas, but the universe is a big place and nobody could write a set of rules to cover it all (that's why there is a referee). I think as hard science fiction it rates at about the level of Star Trek. Sometimes the game does suffer from its designer. For example, the first edition of High Guard was late and so nobody really had tried to build ships with Marc's system. It turned out that a 10,000 ton ship with 10 lasers took as much damage to put the lasers out of action as a 1,000 ton ship with 1 laser. This prompted a rules rewrite when someone mentioned to Marc that in space you can rotate your ship when some one hit you to bring new weapons to bear or for that matter all weapons to bear. To paraphrase Spock "Kahn seems to be thinking in two dimensions."