Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!yale-com!leichter From: leichter@yale-com.UUCP (Jerry Leichter) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Axiom of Choice Message-ID: <2140@yale-com.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Oct-83 18:45:12 EDT Article-I.D.: yale-com.2140 Posted: Sat Oct 8 18:45:12 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Oct-83 12:21:25 EDT References: tekmdp.2286 Lines: 32 I discussed the Banach-Tarski paradox in this newsgroup a couple of months back. As I recall, someone also submitted a fairly elementary proof, or at least an outline of one. It's actually not at all hard; I saw such a proof once, years ago, but don't recall it. Just to make things more definite: It is possible to cut a (solid) sphere of arbitrary size into 5 pieces, and reassemble the pieces to from 2 spheres each of the same size (radius) as the original. (It turns out that 4 pieces are sufficient if you start with a sphere missing its center point; the two new ones will also be missing their center points.) The "way it works", for the 4-piece case, is that you get 4 pieces A, B, C and D with the odd property that A and B are each congruent to A+B - "congruent" in the good old Euclidean sense; same for C, D and C + D. I don't remember what the 5th piece does in the "whole sphere" case. The proof for 5 pieces is involved. The simple proof uses 11 pieces. Before you think this is a way to solve the energy crisis - by multiplying pieces of coal or whatever - be aware that the pieces are made by "cuts" something vaguely like: Put all pieces one of whose coordinates is a rational number and one of whose ^points^ coordinates is an irrational in A; etc. - i.e. you have to divide the spheres up literally "point by point". BTW, Banach-Tarski does NOT work in two dimensions; however, in two and even in one dimension we have another result: The existence of a countably additive, translation-invarient measure (an "area" in two dimensions, a measure of length in one; also, in one, a probability measure, if defined right) on ALL subsets of the line (or plane) is equivalent to the axiom of choice. -- Jerry decvax!yale-comix!leichter leichter@yale