Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!cmcl2!philabs!seismo!hao!kpno!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Everything you know is wrong! Message-ID: <687@utastro.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Oct-83 14:38:17 EDT Article-I.D.: utastro.687 Posted: Mon Oct 3 14:38:17 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Oct-83 18:25:14 EDT Organization: UTexas Astronomy Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 64 med to say) until I found that you get the same ratio for a cube: Let a cube be circumscribed about the same sphere, so that its sides have length 2*r. Then the ratio of surface area to volume is ratio = (6* area of 1 side)/volume = (6 * 4 * r^2)/(8*r^3) = 3/r!!! When I calculated this I saw the fallacy in Lew's argument. The quantity he calculates is not dimensionless, so it is not a legitimate ratio for comparison. What we ought to do is to compare the surface areas of a sphere and a cylinder *whose volumes are the same*. Then we can tell which one can be manufactured with the least amount of "skin". Thus: Let the radius of the sphere be r, and the radius of the sphere inscribed within a cylinder of the same volume be s. Then Volume of sphere = volume of cylinder (4/3)*pi*r^3 = 2*pi*s^3 s = (2/3)^(1/3)*r Now compare the surface areas of the two solids: Area of cylinder/area of sphere = 6*pi*s^2/(4*pi*r^2) = (3/2)^(1/3); So the surface area of the cylinder is about 1.14 times that of a sphere of the same volume. I think that Lew's "ratio" is very cute, and a little curious. It's a lovely swindle. Where did you get it, Lew? Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (Snail) ihnp4!kpno!utastro!bill (uucp) utastro!bill@utexas-11 (ARPA)