Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!duke!unc!mcnc!ecsvax!john From: john@ecsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: IBM XT/370 and VM/PC details Message-ID: <1396@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Oct-83 12:03:48 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.1396 Posted: Wed Oct 19 12:03:48 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Oct-83 02:07:22 EDT References: ecsvax.1388 Lines: 54 Today's Wall Street Journal also reported that IBM announced a 3270 Personal Computer that provides windowing capabilities somewhat like the Apple Lisa. The price of the 3270 PC ranges from $4290 to $7180. The Journal also reported that some analysts saw the XT/370 as "a response by IBM to the growing presence of desk-top computers that make use of... Unix...." If these unnamed analysts are correct, the implication seems to be that IBM does not plan to include Unix in its top of the line PC's, or at least not now. Doesn't this leave open an opportunity for one of the personal computer (or minicomputer) companies to do this? It seems to me that three companies in particular, Apple, DEC, and Hewlett-Packard, have made serious business mistakes by ignoring or delaying implementations of Unix on their microcomputers. For instance, Unix System III is available from Unipress Software for the Apple Lisa, but the Lisa's 5 megabyte hard disk is not adequate, to say the least. So you must buy two 5 megabyte Profile disks, which you will throw away if and when Apple produces or markets a larger capacity hard disk. Surely Apple could ask someone else to design and build a twenty- megabyte hard disk for them. DEC's inability to accept Unix is well known, but the problem here is particularly forceful when Unix is compared with the Professional (?) Operating System (POS) for the DEC Professional 325-350. How anyone could think this operating system preferable to Unix is hard to imagine. Although DEC has announced a Programmer's Tool Kit so that BASIC programs at least will no longer have to be compiled on a large 11 system before they can be run on the microcomputer, this Tool Kit is not yet available. Similarly, Hewlett-Packard has focussed its resources on yet another IBM PC like machine; But H-P had planned to announce a Unix system for its 68000 system as early as last April. Apparently the 150 took a higher priority. Even within the smaller microcomputer companies Unix appears to be stalled. TYX corporation of Virginia has ported three-user Xenix to the Victor 9000, and the system works just fine, but apparently someone near the top at Victor wanted to control the port of Unix to the Victor, with the result that right now no version of Unix is available for this very well designed computer. Perhaps Radio Shack's lack of conspicuous success with the Model 16 Xenix system has made companies reconsider their plans for Unix, but are Radio Shack's results a good model? john hogan nc educational computing service box 12035 research triangle park, nc 27709 (919) 549 0671 ...!decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!john