Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC830919); site mcvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!mcvax!teus From: teus@mcvax.UUCP (Teus Hagen) Newsgroups: net.news.adm Subject: Re: how batch & unbatch work Message-ID: <5448@mcvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Nov-83 17:17:20 EDT Article-I.D.: mcvax.5448 Posted: Wed Nov 2 17:17:20 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Oct-83 20:54:58 EDT References: <224@clyde.UUCP> Organization: Math.Centre, Amsterdam Lines: 26 Sure I will encourage batching as well, but please take into account some severe drawbacks: - batching is another layering between news and uucp (uux). So some old batch batch programs just quit after one error and you will loose some news articles coming after that error (see to your release!). Also the site from who you received your articles will not get any error message on failures any more. So you need to look after news better when you are using news. - batching is creating large files. The change that uucp will be killed due to some severe error is greater. The next time uucp is called the total resending will be done again, etc. So sometimes it will not save you some phone costs. Some bug in old uucp versions will not permit you enough time to copy the batch file to the final destination. The copy will fail and the next time uucp will start to send the batched file again.... However with batching you can use compacting (thanks to decvax!aps and mcvax!jim for the idea and programs). Together with some scheme to have a certain limit in the batched file size I think batching is ok. The programs doing that are tested now and will be included in the next news releases. (By the way the program is three pages, so if you do not want to wait...). -- Teus Hagen Center for Math., Comp. Science (CMCS) formerly Math. Centre (MC) mcvax!teus