Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!ut-sally!jsq From: jsq@ut-sally.UUCP (John Quarterman) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Quack, quack, I'm an American Message-ID: <191@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Sat, 15-Oct-83 21:03:21 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.191 Posted: Sat Oct 15 21:03:21 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Oct-83 23:36:05 EDT References: <555@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 34 Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but my remarks about ugly American accents (notice the plural) referred to accents *in English*. (No one but a Bostonian could find a Boston accent pleasant to the ears.) American accents in general lack the musical variation of pitch of British English, being instead intoned in a flat, nasal, monotone. Not true of all American accents, of course, but of most fer shur. It's true that those Americans who do go to the trouble to learn another language usually sound no worse than any other *foreign* speaker of that other language. I have always found Parisians, in particular, to be very appreciative of attempts to speak their language, by the way. It is also true that there are far fewer Americans who take the trouble to learn any language other than the one they started with than practically any other national group. In Iceland, if I recall this correctly, they start with Icelandic, of course, then move on to Danish, German, French, and English. In the Netherlands most everybody who has gone to school since WWII knows something of German, French, and English. In Africa, it's a very rare person who doesn't know at least two languages, and traders commonly are fluent in three or four or more. And so forth. Yet many Americans still go overseas and expect everyone in the world to speak English. If they're not understood the first time, they just speak louder. They get upset at the French (who are number two at language ignorance) for expecting them to speak French in France, but would think it laughable if somebody from France insisted on speaking French in the States. I must admit that the few Americans I've met in really exotic (for Americans) places like Upper Volta *did* speak more than one language, but they are hardly representative of the great majority of Americans. -- John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas {ihnp4,kpno,ctvax}!ut-sally!jsq, jsq@ut-sally.{ARPA,UUCP}