Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!hou5h!hou5a!hou5d!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!grass From: grass@uiuccsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: What is a vowel, anyway? - (nf) Message-ID: <3452@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Oct-83 20:41:04 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3452 Posted: Wed Oct 26 20:41:04 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Oct-83 07:45:27 EDT Lines: 16 #R:uiuccsb:10500008:uiuccsb:10500010:000:583 uiuccsb!grass Oct 26 10:33:00 1983 Easy, 'm' and other nasals ('n', 'ng') are called 'vocalics' eg. there is only partial stoppage of air flow, and so they can be pronounced and held, and even have harmonic structures just like vowels. Consider these voweless English words: "Mmmm!" and "hmm". So, yes there are two syllables in "schism", no problem. By the by.. The linguistic definition of vowel is 1) any sound produced with an open vocal chamber, 2) voiced and 3) showing harmonic structure on a sonograph. -- Judy p.s. I may have forgotten a technical detail or two, but that's the gist of it.