Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscd5.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!eagle!mhuxi!mhuxl!mhuxm!pyuxi!pyuxnn!pyuxmm!cbdkc1!cbosgd!cbscd5!lvc From: lvc@cbscd5.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Craver the evader ? Message-ID: <832@cbscd5.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Oct-83 08:04:59 EDT Article-I.D.: cbscd5.832 Posted: Thu Oct 20 08:04:59 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Oct-83 00:04:22 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories , Columbus Lines: 29 In his response to Paul Torek Tom Craver writes: "The obvious implication of this statement, and I cannot believe you intended it otherwise, is that I practice an evasive form of argument, rather than trying to address the issues. In fact, what I often try to do is show you logical conclusions of what you say that you have overlooked. Occasionally I may miss some point you present, but I do *NOT* intentionally evade an argument that I cannot answer." Tom, your record in dealing with Dan Mc Kiernan does not live up to this standard given what you have written (and I have seen) on netnews. Or it could be that you think he is engaging in character assination and therefore you refuse to deal with him. Mc Kiernan perceives you as ingaging in character assaination so the tone of his last letter may have seemed harsh. It is certainly in the realm of possibility that you are doing the necessary background work before you write to him but you have not indicated this. As I wrote before, I am not going to be Mc Kiernans typist. The response necessary to refute your position on teleology alone would be too long for me to want to type. If you want to communicate with him you will have to do it through the postal mail service. It is one thing to be able to refute the philosophical equivalents of Kant, Marx, ... on netnews, but people such as myself, Creighton, and Mc Kiernan feel you are ignoring us and we resent it. Larry Cipriani cbosgd!cbscd5!lvc