Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houca.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houca!trc From: trc@houca.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: ity vs izing Message-ID: <416@houca.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Oct-83 19:13:55 EST Article-I.D.: houca.416 Posted: Fri Oct 28 19:13:55 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Nov-83 02:31:06 EST Organization: American Bell, Holmdel NJ Lines: 29 Response to Laura Creighton: I agree that I was defining the commonly used meaning of rationalize - which was what Stan was asking for, I believe. It is a shame for a good word to be used for a concept that is nearly opposite to what it should mean. You state that you have trouble with my definition because you will not be able to tell the difference between being rational and rationalizing, as you do it. I think that it *is* possible to tell the difference. And not being able to distinguish right away does not necessarily invalidate the definition - it merely means that it might be a complex thing to analyze. However, to get practical, how can one tell that one is, or commonly does, rationalize? One simple sign, that can be detected by introspection, is if one was not sure why one was doing the thing, until one thought about it afterwards. This indicates that one did not bother to think about it. The indications is (generally that one did the thing, disregarding justification, and looked for justification after. (Note that making a decision is "doing" something too.) When one rationalizes, it is usually because one believes, in a first reaction, that one has done something wrong. The honest person would then examine the decision, and decide whether it was right or wrong, independent of the fact that it has been done. The dishonest rationalizer will examine the decision for reasons that it was right, only incidentally thinking about (and dismissing) any objections that might pop into his head. Tom Craver houca!trc