Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1a 7/7/83; site rlgvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!rlgvax!guy From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: M = E/C^2 ??? How??? - (nf) Message-ID: <1339@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Oct-83 19:21:00 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.1339 Posted: Wed Oct 26 19:21:00 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Oct-83 20:46:55 EDT References: <548@ucbcad.UUCP> Organization: CCI Office Systems Group, Reston, VA Lines: 42 Since, in relativistic terms, mass and energy are not separate things which are interconvertible but are actually the same thing (ignoring the question of whether mass as measured by the force required to accelerate something - "inertial" mass - is the same as mass as measured by the force exerted on the object by gravity - "gravitational" mass), the distinction between mass and energy is more a distinction between the form of the mass/energy. Generally, "mass" refers to the "rest mass" of something with significant rest mass, where most of the energy that the object has is due to its rest mass - if you make a ball go faster its mass increases because its energy increases, but the difference is extremely small relative to the "rest energy" of the ball. Something having a mass of 10 grams has a rest energy of 10 grams times C^2, which is (3E10 cm/sec)^2, giving 9E21 grams-cm^2/sec^2. Such an object moving at 4.5E3 cm/sec, which is 100 mi/hour, has a kinetic energy of 1/2 m*v^2, which is 1.01E8 grams-cm^2/sec^2, which is about 18 orders of magnitude less than the rest energy. "Energy" in the case you mention generally refers to the energy of something with no rest mass; i.e. electro- magnetic radiation. As such, a nuclear explosion (or a chemical explosion) converts the rest mass/rest energy of the explosive materials into the kinetic energy of what's left after the explosion (although all that kinetic energy *does* remain as mass, because the flying pieces have greater mass due to their greater kinetic energy) and into the kinetic energy of electromagnetic radiation from the explosion (which, since it has no rest mass and can't stop moving, has only kinetic energy). One process which goes the other way would be that of breaking up the products of a fusion or chemical reaction, or fusing the products of a fission reaction, with the addition of electromagnetic or strong nuclear energy. In a chemical reaction which requires energy input, the final products would have more mass than the inputs (although the same 18 orders of magnitude would come in and you'd need the kinetic energy of 1E18 balls moving at 100MPH to produce an increased mass equal to the mass of one of those balls). One other such reaction is "pair production". A photon of electromagnetic energy interacts with the electromagnetic field of a nucleus and becomes a pair of a particle and its antiparticle, such as an electron and a positron. This is probably the purest form of the kind of reaction you're looking for, as it converts a photon (which has no rest mass and acts more like what people conventionally think of as "pure energy" than most anything else) into particles of the type that make up everyday matter. Guy Harris {seismo,mcnc,brl-bmd,allegra}!rlgvax!guy