Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1exp 10/6/83; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!gummo!whuxle!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck From: stanwyck@ihuxr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Natl Film Board's "War" on basic training Message-ID: <699@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Oct-83 10:08:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxr.699 Posted: Tue Oct 11 10:08:17 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Oct-83 01:13:23 EDT References: <2447@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, Il Lines: 27 Re: (something like....) recruits should be told they will have their personalities fundamentally changed. I have seen the very thing (personality changes) mentioned in a few individuals, primarily in one branch of the service. I served for four years, all but 3 months of it on all-service bases. For the most part, the only cases of personality change I saw were from the Marine Corps basic program. The Army, Navy, and especially the Air Force run very different basic programs. The USAF runs what is essentially a 6-week classroom course. It does very little to instill any type of instant response to command, or other activity associated with combat type training. And why should it? Most USAF recruits end up in behind-the-desk jobs, or mechanic positions. Definately not on the front lines. However, I also see the reasoning behind the Marine Corps basic. If for some reason I were in a combat situation (altho I haven't the slightest idea how you could get me there) I would want those around me to be super-efficient fighting machines, not problem ponderers. I would want them to respond instantly to command, even if it were of a suicidal nature. (In war games, it is often the practice to sacrifice the few to save the many.) Don Stanwyck ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck