Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!pollack From: pollack@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Liberals vs. Conservatives - (nf) Message-ID: <3393@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 23-Oct-83 20:39:59 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3393 Posted: Sun Oct 23 20:39:59 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Oct-83 07:18:14 EDT Lines: 47 #R:ihuxw:-53500:uicsl:16300023:000:2156 uicsl!pollack Oct 23 17:29:00 1983 Good flame!. I would point out, however, that this type of negative media portrayal does not only apply to conservatives. Feminists and environmentalists are also portrayed negatively. For example, although there are lots of good-looking, intelligent heterosexual feminists, the only ones brought forth by the media all act like Bella Abzug. For example, one time I was watching Johnny Carson introduce "an environmentalist." As the slightly built and extremely effeminate man talked about saving the whooping crane from extinction by artificial insemination, Carson cracked jokes about beastiality and insinuated that something was not right about the sexual preferences of "our environmentalist!" Your flame reminds me of something I've wanted to flame about, which is the "consistent idealogy" idea. Why does one need a consistent ideology of either "liberal or conservative" or "capitalist or socialist"? For example, Richard Viguerie has said that the abortion issue is the introductory issue for conservatism. "If a person thinks that abortion is murder," Viguerie (approximately) said, "we can convince them that the whole liberal program is wrong and that our program of a strong defense against communism, feminism and homosexuality is right." For example, I hate the colonial foreign policy of our country, whereby we seek, through multinational corporations and client regimes, to control the raw materials of other nations and use their citizens as cheap labor. But I still believe in individual enterprise and competition, and that anarchal capitalism is the best model for development and freedom. If Nicaragua were allowed to compete on the world market for coffee and bananas, and capitalized and mechanized its production, I'm sure it would outcompete the slave labor in Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Ecuador. Why does a socialist friend want to convince me that economic imperialism is a by-product of capitalism, that world monopolization and massive exploitation of all workers is the "goal" of capitalism? And now Reagan wants to send out "Capitalist Missionaries!" When does the brainwashing stop? Jordan Pollack