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From: andrew@orca.UUCP (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: Scientific Creationism
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Date: Fri, 21-Oct-83 12:33:40 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 21 12:33:40 1983
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	"1. The Theory of Evolution is Invalid.

	- Evolution has never been observed.  (Ed. note:  He cited as
	reference, the multitude of fruit fly experiments which have
	never resulted in the evolution of a more complex fly species.)"

What about the new strains of DDT-resistant insects which have sprung
virtually from nowhere in the last several years?

What about penicillin-resistant gonorrhea?  It was unheard-of until the
1960's.

What about totally new diseases, such as AIDS?  If it didn't evolve
from other microorganisms, do creationists maintain that God recently
created this disease?  If so, why?

	"The fact that the Moon is recessing from the earth points
	toward a young Earth - Moon system."

It might if it were true, but if anything the moon is moving steadily
closer to the earth.

	"Leading evolutionists are aware of problems with the theory of
	evolution, but are suppressing contradictory evidence."

Did the lecturer present any evidence, or was he just slandering the
community of scientists?

None of these points are as cut-and-dried as they are presented.  For
example, the fact that one can create a mathematical model "proving"
creationism to challenge a model "proving" evolution simply
demonstrates that you can make a mathematical model to support any
non-trivial assertion.  The evidence that dating techniques are invalid
fall apart in the face of application of the properties of exponential
series.  And claims that historical changes in the speed of light are
sufficient to explain Doppler shifts are simply laughable.

But what else is this newgroup for but to preach to the converted?

  -- Andrew Klossner   (decvax!tektronix!tekecs!andrew)  [UUCP]
                       (andrew.tektronix@rand-relay)     [ARPA]