Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!hou5h!hou5a!hou5d!hogpc!drux3!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!parsec!holt From: holt@parsec.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re:An honest request for information - (nf) Message-ID: <3439@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Oct-83 21:57:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3439 Posted: Tue Oct 25 21:57:00 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Oct-83 04:46:35 EDT Lines: 30 #R:yale-com:-222600:parsec:42200002:000:1504 parsec!holt Oct 25 14:59:00 1983 Mary-Anne, You make a lot of good points in your article. I would like to respond to one of the first. That is, that women feel (on the average) that they should not like sex, or that it is bad for them to have it. I feel that this is in large part due to the socialization that children go through. "SEX" is a dirty thing throughout childhood, especially if the child grows up in a fundamentalist religious environment. It really disturbs me that people can be so hypocritical about something which is such a basic underlying theme in life. Maybe one day, people (on a broad scale) will realize that sex is a natural thing, something which one doesn't have to be ashamed of, and which is really a thing of beauty. Especially if it's between two people who really care for each other. In response to your suggestion that men wait for women to take the initiative... I'm not sure that most women would agree with you, but wouldn't mind it if they did. What about it women of netland? Do you like to take the initiative or should the man? Or should both? Dave Holt {allegra,ihnp4,uiucdcs}!parsec!holt P.S. In thinking about the problem of a man not wanting to wait in a relationship for the women to want sex... It seems to me that there is a tradeoff between the wants and needs of one person and the wants and needs of the other person. If neither is willing to compromise, then perhaps the relationship wasn't headed in the right direction in the first place???