Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!charlie From: charlie@cca.UUCP (Charlie Kaufman) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Women and Chess Message-ID: <5875@cca.UUCP> Date: Tue, 11-Oct-83 18:49:05 EDT Article-I.D.: cca.5875 Posted: Tue Oct 11 18:49:05 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Oct-83 03:14:18 EDT Lines: 36 I read with amusement a recent posting suggesting that perhaps the reason there are very few women amoung the world's best chess players was lack of physical stamina. It was amusing not because the idea is absurd, but because it illustrates the lengths people will go before considering the obvious (which is not to say correct) explanation: that there exist differences, at least on average, in the minds of men and women that make men better chess players. There. I said it. It's out in the open. Differences between men and women (or blacks and whites, or any of a number of other bases) are a sensitive issue. Differences in physical characteristics are a dangerous topic; differences in mental characteristics are strictly taboo. Why? It's OK to talk about differences in the mental characteristics of individuals - some people are smarter than others, some more obnoxious, etc. Why is it wrong to discuss the possibility that some of these differences might be correlated with sex/race/national origin/whatever? And if the subject is broached, why is an apologetic - but of course group x is better at y - always appended? Discrimination is a crime against individuals; not against groups. The fact that discrimination is based on group membership is irrelevant. The crime is that it is arbitrary and capricious. If the victims were chosen by lottery, the results would be no less unfair. So what if group A is better (on average!) than group B at activity C? It is still wrong to deny b's the same chance as the a's. We do not have to deny the difference to proclaim the injustice. Denying the difference is dangerous (you might be refuted) and distracts attention from the real issue. Why do we go out of our way to do so? --Charlie Kaufman charlie@cca ...decvax!cca!charlie