Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!houxm!mhuxl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!ncsu!uvacs!mac From: mac@uvacs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: inscrutable intelligence Message-ID: <1047@uvacs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Nov-83 19:20:10 EST Article-I.D.: uvacs.1047 Posted: Wed Nov 9 19:20:10 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Nov-83 06:25:40 EST Lines: 26 Regarding inscrutability of intelligence [sri-arpa.13363]: Actually, it's typical that a discipline can't define its basic object of study. Ever heard a satisfactory definition of mathematics (it's not just the consequences of set theory) or philosophy.? What is physics? Disciplines are distinguished from each other for historical and methodological reasons. When they can define their subject precisely it is because they have been superseded by the discipline that defines their terms. It's usually not important (or possible) to define e.g. intelligence precisely. We know it in humans. This is where the IQ tests run into trouble. AI seems to be about behavior in computers that would be called intelligent in humans. Whether the machines are or are not intelligent (or, for that matter, conscious) is of little interest and no import. In this I guess I agree with Rorty [sri-arpa.13322]. Rorty is willing to grant consciousness to thermostats if it's of any help. (Best definition of formal mathematics I know: "The science where you don't know what you're talking about or whether what you're saying is true".) A. Colvin mac@virginia