Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!AXLER.Upenn-1100@Rand-Relay From: AXLER.Upenn-1100%Rand-Relay@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Intelligence and Categorization Message-ID: <13829@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Nov-83 10:48:34 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.13829 Posted: Wed Nov 16 10:48:34 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Nov-83 03:27:30 EST Lines: 34 From: AXLER.Upenn-1100@Rand-Relay (David M. Axler - MSCF Applications Mgr.) I think Tom Portegys' comment in 1:98 is very true. Knowing whether or not a thing is intelligent, has a soul, etc., is quite helpful in letting us categorize it. And, without that categorization, we're unable to know how to understand it. Two minor asides that might be relevant in this regard: 1) There's a school of thought in the fields of linguistics, folklore, anthropology, and folklore, which is based on the notion (admittedly arguable) that the only way to truly understand a culture is to first record and understand its native categories, as these structure both its language and its thought, at many levels. (This ties in to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that language structures culture, not the reverse...) From what I've read in this area, there is definite validity in this approach. So, if it's reasonable to try and understand a culture in terms of its categories (which may or may not be translatable into our own culture's categories, of course), then it's equally reasonable for us to need to categorize new things so that we can understand them within our existing framework. 2) Back in medieval times, there was a concept known as the "Great Chain of Being", which essentially stated that everything had its place in the scheme of things; at the bottom of the chain were inanimate things, at the top was God, and the various flora and fauna were in-between. This set of categories structured a lot of medieval thinking, and had major influences on Western thought in general, including thought about the nature of intelligence. Though the viewpoint implicit in this theory isn't widely held any more, it's still around in other, more modern, theories, but at a "subconscious" level. As a result, the notion of 'machine intelligence' can be a troubling one, because it implies that the inanimate is being relocated in the chain to a position nearly equal to that of man. I'm ranging a bit far afield here, but this ought to provoke some discussion... Dave Axler