Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekcae.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!tektronix!tekcae!philw From: philw@tekcae.UUCP (Philip White) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: 1hp/ci Message-ID: <23@tekcae.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Nov-83 21:19:52 EST Article-I.D.: tekcae.23 Posted: Fri Nov 25 21:19:52 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Nov-83 03:23:43 EST Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 28 The question "why can't they make car engines anymore with over one horsepower per cubic inch?" was discussed at length a couple of months ago in this net. Someone pointed out that motorcycle engines routinely produce over 1 horsepower per cubic inch these days, even if cars don't. I think I can explain why this is - the smaller motorcycle engines rev higher. HORSEPOWER = K * TORQUE * RPM where K is a constant. If engines are compared on the basis of peak torque per displacement volume, motorcycle and car engines of all types are extremely close. I looked at seven motorcycles from Cycle magazine, versus seven cars from Road & Track. They were selected by being the first seven I ran across. The bikes ranged from .055 to .062 ft-lbs/cc (love those units), while cars were between .051 and .060 ft-lbs/cc. The bike mean was 5% above the car mean, which is not much difference. The bike engines were all smaller and therefore could rev higher, with torque peaking at higher rpm than for the cars. Therefore the average bike has more power at peak torque than a car at its peak torque, per unit displacement volume. It should then be no surprise that power at the power peak rpm will also be higher for bikes than for cars. Phil White Tektronix, Beaverton, OR USENET: {allegra, decvax, ihnp4, ucbvax} !tektronix!tekcae!philw (or) {cbosg, eagle, pur-ee, ucbvax} !teklabs!tekcae!philw