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Subject: UniPress vs. CCA
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Date: Thu, 10-Nov-83 05:30:49 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov 10 05:30:49 1983
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Let's get down to cases here.  What are some tangible differences between
UniPress (aka Gosling's) and CCA (aka Zimmerman's) Emacs?  I use UniPress
Emacs regularly, but have only played with CCA Emacs on a couple of occasions
and while I'm not in a position to make any sort of detailed comments,
I have made a few observations.

It seems that the primary gripe against CCA Emacs is the lack of an embedded
language; are there any other serious complaints?  It appears that CCA
Emacs is much superior to Unipress Emacs from the standpoint of a user
who just wants a nice editor to use and isn't really concerned about being
able to roll-his-own editor functions.  CCA Emacs also seems to win hands-
down with respect to documentation.

How about bug handling?  I sent UniPress a letter to report several bugs that
I had found; their response was merely that they'd add them to the bug list;
no mention of workarounds or possible solutions.  Does CCA do any better?

I've got one specific question about CCA Emacs: Is it possible to establish
key bindings once the editor has started up?  My brief scans of the documen-
tation haven't uncovered a way to do this.

A couple of other things pop to mind:  UniPress Emacs can undo a number of
previous operations; the CCA Emacs manual that I have indicates that only
one change can be undone; is this still the case with CCA Emacs?  Also,
it appears that the CCA Emacs key bindings were designed with META key
terminals in mind.  While it provides workarounds for terminals without
META keys, it would seem that the non-META user is getting the short end
of the stick.

					Bill Mitchell