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From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris)
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Subject: Re: Friends of the C.C.C.P.
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Date: Tue, 8-Nov-83 23:32:51 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov  8 23:32:51 1983
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If it is decided that criticizing the actions of our government is giving aid
and comfort to our enemy and should be stopped, I say that we've just
eliminated one of the differences between the Western democracies and the
U.S.S.R..

	To those who, in the open-minded manner, arrive at conclusions
	surprising similar to the conventional wisdom at the Kremlin,

Are you trying to imply that this similarity should not be surprising?
Are you trying to imply that the critics in question really want the
Soviet Union's political and military goals to be achieved?  If not, you
should not use phrasing like this; if so, you should come out and say it.

	I ask:  To what extent, would you estimate, does your publicized
	hatred of the USA assist in the goals and aspirations of all members
	of the CCCP?  Or, perhaps we should back-up one step and ask: Does
	it worry you that you sound like a Kremlin bureaucrat when you liken
	Grenada with Afghanistan, when you recommend subscribing to a Socialist
	rag, when you defame the institutions of the USA?

1) "Publicised hatred of the USA"?  I fail to see how opposition to one
specific act of the US armed forces is equivalent to "publicised hatred of
the USA".  This argument has been used many, many times in the past and it
doesn't improve with age.

2) I don't see any evidence that opposition to the invasion of Grenada
assists in the goals and aspirations of all members of the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics, except by coincidence.  Opposition to invasion of
foreign countries by force hardly assists in those goals and aspirations,
considering the USSR's frequent use of such such invasion to achieve those
goals.

3) Kremlin bureaucrats to not liken Grenada to Afghanistan, for reasons which
should be obvious.  I don't know what you are referring to when you speak
of "subscribing to a Socialist rag".  State what magazine you are referring
to, so we can discuss whether it is a "Socialist rag" or not.  If recommending
certain magazines makes one a supporter of the U.S.S.R., it seems that free
speech is not something to value.

4) As for "defaming the institutions of the USA", see 1) above.  There are
certain institutions that *deserve* defaming; the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover,
for one.

	It doesn't require you change your registration to Republican to
	realize the only opposition to the Soviet way of life is the American.
	And your right of vocal complaint and bitterness toward your own
	Government is obtained from that opposition.  So kindly be aware of
	this opposition and note well who bought the rope you are hanging
	yourself with.

I know of no evidence whatsoever that debate over this nation's actions
will result in the Russkies being on the beaches tomorrow.  Arguments that
imply that people who oppose some of our country's actions are merely
giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and that they should perhaps just shut
up, do not give me the feeling that the person making those arguments really
understands the point of a democracy.

	Guy Harris
	{seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy