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From: rgt@hpfclj.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Query on mysterious fuel - (nf)
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Date: Sun, 13-Nov-83 03:30:38 EST
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Posted: Sun Nov 13 03:30:38 1983
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hpfclj!rgt    Nov 11 08:38:00 1983

This is an unsolicited retraction of the word FRAUD which I used in
a previous response to this note.  In further contemplating the
phenomenon of "amazing discoveries", I suppose that someone can
sincerely fool oneself into believing that some physical event really
occured.  I remember when I was in high school, a serious report of
"poly-water" in which water was added to a certain compound of known
mass, then heat to about 105 degrees C for a sufficient time for all of
the water to have been driven off.  Still the mass was greater than the
original.  The researchers hypothesized that the water formed a
polymeric chain with previously unknown boiling point above 105 C.

Some time later it was concluded that the water actually formed hydrates
with the original compound, so that the water was retained.  

Thus I propose that the case of the hydrogen, chlorine, and sunlight is
a similar event which will fit well into the known physical laws.  After
all in my college course in freshman chemistry, we saw an hydrogen-
chlorine demonstration; we are not talking about unusual compounds.

					Ron Tolley
					Hewlett-Packard/Fort Collins Systems
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