Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uok!lllenoir From: lllenoir@uok.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Orphaned Response - (nf) Message-ID: <3666@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Nov-83 23:34:33 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3666 Posted: Wed Nov 2 23:34:33 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Nov-83 12:29:33 EST Lines: 51 #R:bunkerb:-24700:uok:6600006:37777777600:1830 uok!lllenoir Oct 31 02:33:00 1983 First of all, I'm not sure what this arguement is doing in 'net.politics' but since it is here... While attending an Engineering Club party I over heard the statement ".. the guy belives in creation. How can anybody with a rational mind believe in creation?" or something to that affect.. anyway this statement was made by a man in reference to one of the profs here at the university. This sort of attitude seems to be prevalent throughout a rather large portion of our society. It is a fact that admitting to being a christian makes one a natural target for statements like that one and for more open harrasement as well. One thing that seems to be forgotten when a discussion of 'church vs state' is that the founding fathers of this nation were God fearing individuals. When they wrote in the part about church and state remaining seperate, they wanted to prevent the church from getting to intwind in the running of the country. They did not forsee that this would bring about the end of prayer in schools, arguments over wether or not Easter cermonies should be held in state parks, and city councils being told that a Nativity seen down town would be unconstitutional. I think it is important to remember that this nation has it's deepest roots buried in the Bible. The book is the basis behind some of our most fundimental beliefs. If some people ever took the time to read it the world would at least not be any worse off and would proably be abetter place to live in. One does not have to be a christian to see this.. Well.. it appears that I have digressed from the original and also have flamed enough to burn down several forest full of Smokey the Bears anyway that was my opinion and I promise from now on I will restrict my remarks to net.religion. Lionel University of Oklahoma