Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece From: preece@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Who's deterring whom? - (nf) Message-ID: <4094@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Nov-83 22:31:31 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.4094 Posted: Wed Nov 23 22:31:31 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Nov-83 06:31:41 EST Lines: 38 #R:charm:-17800:uicsl:16300033:000:1820 uicsl!preece Nov 23 10:28:00 1983 The USSR has plenty of troops in its satelite countries (as much to keep them in line as to threaten the west), why doesn't our un-named writer mention those ? ---------- Well, the troops in, say, East Germany are not directly a threat to ME, so I see them as different from our troops in West Germany, which are a direct threat to the Soviet Union and its satellites. More important, we have bunches of missiles over there and we're currently putting in lots more. How would we react if they put missiles in, say, Cuba (what a novel idea) or Mexico? We have insisted that in discussing nuclear arms in Europe we could not count the independent forces of our allies. The Soviets may justifiably question exactly why we are entitled to put ANY of our own missiles in Europe under those circumstances. If the Europeans are independent, let them take care of themselves; if they want our umbrella, they ought to coordinate themselves with our arms control discussions. The natural geographic distribution of the world has arranged that we are surrounded by friends and they are surrounded by enemies (beyond the borders of their satellites, of course). Why SHOULDN'T they feel paranoid? They also know that we have more advanced missiles and guidance systems and more powerful computers and communications facilities. Why should they trust us any more than we trust them? I'm not saying there are any answers. I think a freeze would be nice, but not terribly meaningful, given the appalling level we'd be making fixed. A reduction might very well make conventional war more likely, and a conventional war would certainly lead to building nuclear weapons again. But a severe reduction, adequately policed, would at least reduce the danger of accidental cataclysm. scott preece ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece