Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!notes From: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Nuclear silliness - (nf) Message-ID: <890@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Dec-83 02:00:36 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.890 Posted: Sun Dec 4 02:00:36 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Dec-83 04:49:28 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 66 #R:mprvaxa:-38300:ucbcad:21900001:000:3226 ucbcad!moore Nov 20 16:32:00 1983 If we are going to advocate unilateral disarmament, it seems we must be able to answer the following questions: Protection of Western Europe. Despite earlier references to number of U.S. troops abroad, my impression has been that the USSR has a rather incredible superiority in conventional forces over all of all of NATO combined. The only advantage NATO forces could hope to use would be superior communication, command, countermeasure systems. Because of this, it seems we are currently depending on tactical nuclear weapons to counter an all out armored assault. If we are to eliminate these tactical weapons, then the protection of Western Europe would require either: a) Increase conventional forces in Europe. Especially in the present political climate, it doesn't look possible to spend the money necessary to keep a standing army the size of the USSR's. b) Negotiate troop reductions with the Soviets. Considering how well arms negotiations have worked and the well demonstrated paranoia of the Soviets over their borders, this doesn't seem practical. c) Trust the Soviets with their superiority. A possibility, but consider Afghanistan, Poland, and the USSR's treatment of its' satellites in general. I am appalled by how little control the American people have over the Pentagon in general, and the Presidents uses of forces in Grenada, San Salvador, etc. But at least there is some pressure applied by public opinion. The Soviet government seems based on joint control by senior officers in the armed forces and the KGB. Imagine being governed directly by the CIA and Joint Chiefs and see my hesitation in trusting the Soviet government. Nuclear Blackmail. The above discussion assumed strictly conventional warfare. But what happens if the Soviet Union has the only nuclear weapons? The Soviets are not known for half way measures in warfare, if reports of chemical warfare in Afghanistan are to be believed. The U.S. certainly didn't refrain from using nuclear weapons when it had a nuclear monopoly. An air burst over a city could be an incredibly demoralizing attack, with little fear of retaliation if you own a nuclear monopoly. 'Mother Jones' quoted a memo/diary entry of Harry Truman that read something like "Build lots of atomic bombs, bomb Russia, set up world-wide democracy". I don't like that kind of power in anyone's hands. I want to believe in unilateral disarmament: it is a simple, immediate solution to a terrifying problem. The last thing I want is my country involved with the genocide of the entire race, and I am damn tired of being in a situation where this is a day to day reality. But is irresponsible to advocate this without some assurance that we won't bring on the deaths of millions in an invasion of Western Europe or in nuclear blackmail. Please note, I am not asking for flames about the relative merits of U.S. over U.S.S.R., this is irrelevant. We are discussing giving U.S.S.R. ALONE a nuclear monopoly. And please show at least as much cynicism in the actions and motivations of the U.S.S.R as you would for the U.S.. Peter Moore (moore@Berkeley, ucbvax!moore)