Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiuccsb!eich From: eich@uiuccsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Observing Evolution - (nf) Message-ID: <3699@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-Nov-83 23:03:15 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3699 Posted: Mon Nov 7 23:03:15 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 9-Nov-83 23:59:00 EST Lines: 32 #R:duke:-369600:uiuccsb:11900007:000:1520 uiuccsb!eich Nov 4 21:22:00 1983 I didn't say natural selection is not evolution, just that it is not nearly the whole story. I think I meant by `natural selection' something narrower than what you mean. Most texts I have read treat the issue of what genotypes the survival criterion selects separately from the selection itself. Thus natural selection acting on primordial organisms doesn't account for new species. For that you need (and the Modern synthesis posits) mutations. So part of the synthesis is the observation that mutagens and ionizing radiation create a background of `spontaneous' mutations, and the postulate that enough of these over a long period result in beneficial changes (beneficial by the survival of the fittest criterion) sufficient to produce a new species. Microbiology supports this by finding an evolutionary history in genetic material (`Ontogeny recapitulates Phylogeny' in miniature). On the other hand the Modern Synthesis is under quiet attack right now from biologists like Stephen Gould, partly because steady, slow progress by random mutation isn't too well supported, especially by (not to give Creationists comfort, but I must say it) the fossil record. Gould holds that evolution is a saltational process, occuring disjuctively in a fury of mutation and selection between the epochs. But the point I was making is that all of this evolution controversy in biology deals with more than natural selection: namely, where does the great variety of life come from, granted that it obviously was selected?