Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!notes From: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: parallelism vs. novel architecture - (nf) Message-ID: <835@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Nov-83 11:15:50 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.835 Posted: Sat Nov 19 11:15:50 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Nov-83 01:13:56 EST Sender: notes@ucbcad.UUCP Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group Lines: 45 #R:sri-arpa:-1368800:ucbesvax:1100006:000:2386 ucbesvax!turner Nov 19 00:55:00 1983 Re: parallelism and fundamental discoveries The stored-program concept (Von Neumann machine) was indeed a breakthrough both in the sense of Turing (what is theoretically computable) and in the sense of Von Neuman (what is a practical machine). It is noteworthy, however, that I am typing this message using a text editor with a segment of memory devoted to program, another segment devoted to data, and with an understanding on the part of the operating system that if the editor were to try to alter one of its own instructions, the operating system should treat this as pathological, and abort it. In other words, the vaunted power of being able to write data that can be executed as a program is treated in the most stilted and circumspect manner in the interests of practicality. It has been found to be impractical to write programs that modify their own inner workings. Yet people do this to their own consciousness all the time--in a largely unconscious way. Turing-computability is perhaps a necessary condition for intelligence. (That's been beaten to death here.) What is needed is a sufficient condition. Can that possibly be a single breakthrough or innovation? There is no question that, working from the agenda for AI that was so hubristically layed out in the 50's and 60's, such a breakthrough is long overdue. Who sees any intimation of it now? Perhaps what is needed is a different kind of AI researcher. New ground is hard to break, and harder still when the usual academic tendency is to till old soil until it is exhausted. I find it interesting that many of the new ideas in AI are coming from outside the U.S. AI establishment (MIT, CMU, Stanford, mainly). Logic programming seems largely to be a product of the English-speaking world *apart* from the U.S. Douglas Hofstadter's ideas (though probably too optimistic) are at least a sign that, after all these years, some people find the problem too important to be left to the experts. Tally Ho! Maybe AI needs a nut with the undaunted style of a Nicola Tesla. Some important AI people say that Hofstadter's schemes can't work. This makes me think of the story about the young 19th century physicist, whose paper was reviewed and rejected as meaningless by 50 prominent physicists of the time. The 51st was Maxwell, who had it published immediately. --- Michael Turner (ucbvax!ucbesvax.turner)