Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!gumby From: gumby@mit-eddie.UUCP (David Vinayak Wallace) Newsgroups: net.cog-eng Subject: Typewriters as models Message-ID: <986@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Dec-83 02:15:00 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.986 Posted: Thu Dec 1 02:15:00 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Dec-83 05:55:20 EST Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 33 In-reply-to: The message of 30 Nov 83 00:26-EST from Steven M. Haflich Date: Wed, 30-Nov-83 00:26:23 EST From: smh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Steven M. Haflich) What wonders me in this discussion (though I appreciate the replies that suggest to read everything is CBREAK mode), is that no one came up with the answer `suggest a TYPEWRITER as model'. Surely this kind of apparatus and its use are known to most people, and surely on a typewriter you have to watch out for the end of the line! I admire this cogent and meritorious suggestion, yet I find it unsettling: I can't remember the last time I actually *used* a real paper-and-platen typewriter! I cannot count the nearby Diablo which we use for "letter-quality" output, as no human ever uses its keyboard. I imagine there are children who have logged many hours on a glass tty but who have *never* used a real typewriter! The increasing-common feature of automatic break at end-of-line might render this suggestion absolutely opaque. So why does it bother me? Well, this model would be useless to me. My first exposure to a keyboard (of a non-musical instrument) was a Linolex word processor in 1972. It had a diablo printer, crt, cassette tapes (no floppies, then). I leaned to type on that machine! A couple of years later I saw my first non-selectric printer, and exclaimed to my dad "Look! The PLATEN moves and the carriage is fixed!" As a matter of fact, I can count the times I've used a typewriter one my fingers. I've always used computers to type on. david wallace (19 years old now)