Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!smh From: smh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Steven M. Haflich) Newsgroups: net.cog-eng Subject: Re: Long names and menus Message-ID: <990@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Dec-83 08:15:05 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.990 Posted: Thu Dec 1 08:15:05 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Dec-83 07:09:20 EST References: <19001@wivax.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 27 Since I do work for Wang, the next discussion is slightly biased. I've used the VS system for more than five years, and have never typed (or forgotten) a command, because the entire operating system, including utilities and applications is menu-driven via PF keys. The salient reason function keys were implementable on the Wang system, I suspect, is that the user interface only runs on one kind of terminal (or perhaps a limited set of similar devices). Look at termcap sometime. The only reason all those entries are there is because someone, somewhere, used each of those devices! Unix is a non-captive general time-sharing system that runs on lots of different hardware and terminals with varying configurations of function keys. Menu systems will likely be standard once high-resolution bitmap displays and mice are also standard. They have existed on Lisp machines, various Xerox machines, and others for many years. I have seen apparently-nice window systems on Unix running on the Blit, on the widely-unannounced Sun II (*), and on Apollo machines. Of course, it will remain difficult to access such capabilities from home at 1200 baud, although I have heard opinions that the Blit can be made to function reasonably. (*) Sun II might or might not someday be a trademark of SMI [:-)]. Steve Haflich, MIT Experimental Music Studio