Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!mit-eddie!smh From: smh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Steven M. Haflich) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: teacher's don't need more pay - (nf) Message-ID: <946@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Nov-83 21:56:49 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.946 Posted: Mon Nov 21 21:56:49 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Nov-83 04:07:33 EST References: <836@ucbcad.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 54 FLAME --- FLAME --- FLAME --- FLAME --- FLAME First, in preface, I am a long-time computer professional and researcher who is now a `teacher' (of music), presently at MIT. With 19 years experience with computers, I may be somewhat of an anomaly in liberal arts education -- usually, people migrate the other way -- but I claim a particular right to comment, as if one needs a right to write to Usenet... Upon finishing graduate school I took employment as an assistant professor in music at the University of Wisconsin with a starting salary about 40% of offers from industry. I do not wish here to argue the benefits of working in academia vs. the `real' world, but no matter how committed one is to teaching, the attraction of higher pay is a constant temptation. With a manufacturing and agricultural economy, Wisconsin had a hard time during the past recession. A recession cuts the tax base, so state funds for education were under extreme pressure. I hear from former colleagues that UW avoided making faculty cuts this past year only by putting a freeze on all faculty salaries. My argument is economic: I will not presume that the economy hinges on music theory, but at UW-Milwaukee a few years ago *four* computer science faculty positions were vacant -- no competent people could be found to fill them at the offered salary. Of course, the governor and state legislature spouted great torrents about how committed they were to upgrading the medium-industry smokestack economy to `high tech.' Yet, it was up to a music professor to boot the first Unix system on campus. (Not that Unix is so high-tech, but things are relative. :-) Suppose the University were to --- let us exagerate --- quadruple [!] professorial salaries in critical technologies. Superbly qualified candidates would be fighting for those same positions. The general `worker' population five or ten years from now would be far more suited to high tech, and salaries of those workers would be far greater. I am no economist, but I am certain that any reasonable investment in education by a government would pay back handsome interest in income and corporate taxes within, say, ten years. Teaching is the great cultural amplifier. No price [within reasonable bounds] is too high that we couldn't afford substantial capital gains on our investment.* The real problem, as I see it, is that it takes more than four years, sometimes *much* more, for the investment to begin paying. Politicians in America are typically elected for 2, 4, or 6 year terms. Lest this flame seem to criticise my former colleagues at UW, I must say that I found them to be both dedicated and absolutely competent. However, they labored then (and I suspect continue) with entirely insufficient facilities and support for the task at hand. * - A paraphrase from a brilliant trumpeter who once said: "No note is too high to be taken down an octave!" Steve Haflich MIT Experimental Music Studio